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13-06-2017, 09:17 PM
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#1
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Novice
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: cornwall
Age: 45
Posts: 10
Bike: sym jet 4 125cc
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speedfight2 non-start
first of all an apology: i know it's likely that this topic has been discussed in the past. i HAVE tried to do a search, and read many threads already, but have been unable to solve my problem so am posting a new thread. please be gentle with me
i have a speedfight2. it used to run. then it sat in my shed for a couple of years. now i cannot get it started.
i currently have it connected to a good battery, i have checked spark (both seen spark on cylinder head and using a spark tester), i have fuel flow (with fresh fuel - checked carb, pulled hoses, observed fuel flow), i have removed exhaust in case it was blocked, when winding engine over using starter can see exhaust/unburnt fuel exiting exhaust port. i have checked compression and it has 60psi (i do not know the spec for this though so this may be too low?)
do all speedfight2's have an immobiliser? i didn't think mine did, but have read this as a possible fault on previous threads.
could it be the auto-choke? i don't know a lot about these
electrics on scooters aren't a strong point, but i would expect that if fuel is getting in, there's a spark, and a free exhaust... then the engine should run surely??
i am at a loss... can anyone help??
many thanks in advance!
Andy
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14-06-2017, 04:34 PM
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#2
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Training
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 33
Posts: 190
Bike: Wpb 125 crf70
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
Red light on the clocks ?
Clean carb?
My friends speedfight did this it was the immobiliser
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17-06-2017, 05:36 PM
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#3
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Novice
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: cornwall
Age: 45
Posts: 10
Bike: sym jet 4 125cc
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
ok so i reattached the exhaust just to double check the compression stayed the same. it stayed at 60psi.
i then noticed my compression tester was using a rubber extension hose... surely that would swell and affect the pressure reading?? so i removed that and connected directly to the metal connector. compression went up to 80psi. better but still too low.
so i put a little bit of oil in plug hole and refitted the spark plug. when i thumbed the starter it still didn't fire but did cough, once. encouragement!
i put my thumb over the exhaust and after a few spins the engine fired! it started!! i can only assume that blocking the exhaust momentarily, increased the pressure in the cylinder and helped the fuel ignite?
lot's of smoke but it's running. happy days!
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18-06-2017, 02:39 PM
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#4
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Training
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 33
Posts: 190
Bike: Wpb 125 crf70
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
Maybe could do with a de-coke
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18-06-2017, 03:43 PM
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#5
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Novice
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: cornwall
Age: 45
Posts: 10
Bike: sym jet 4 125cc
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
in reply to your original message renaulttom, there are NO lights on the dash, which is strange, but then i dont have all the lights etc connected at the moment.
yes a de-coke sounds like a good idea... umm how does one do that??
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18-06-2017, 06:04 PM
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#6
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Training
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 33
Posts: 190
Bike: Wpb 125 crf70
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
head off clean it of all coke clean the top of the piston when the piston is in the barrel check for any play
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21-06-2017, 07:48 PM
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#7
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Novice
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: cornwall
Age: 45
Posts: 10
Bike: sym jet 4 125cc
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renaulttom
head off clean it of all coke clean the top of the piston when the piston is in the barrel check for any play
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cool thanks tom, can the head be removed in-situ? just clean it up with generic carb cleaner type spray can ok? cheers
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21-06-2017, 07:55 PM
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#8
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Training
Join Date: Apr 2017
Age: 33
Posts: 190
Bike: Wpb 125 crf70
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Re: speedfight2 non-start
You can remove the head and clean it all up and if you have a blow torch clean the exhaust port then dip it in oil
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