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Old 09-02-2009, 11:32 PM   #11
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Re: again no spark.

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Right well, i checked the stator, and its returning over 100 ohms,

so its working alright, i have checked within the loom and its saying its all good too.

could i check for a short to earth by putting one side to the wires, and one side to the engine? as surely a short to earth, would go through the engine?

would this work?

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i think it would mate .. but im not 100% sure
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:51 PM   #12
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Re: again no spark.

right just checked all the wires through the cdi plug, to earth *engine*, and the only one not to earth was the black/red wire.

can anyone tell me what this is used for?

i have 5 wire type stator,

blue/white,
green,
black/red,
white.
yellow.
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Old 10-02-2009, 04:23 AM   #13
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Re: again no spark.

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right just checked all the wires through the cdi plug, to earth *engine*, and the only one not to earth was the black/red wire.

can anyone tell me what this is used for?

i have 5 wire type stator,

blue/white,
green,
black/red,
white.
yellow.
only green then either yellow or white shud be earth types. anyway black/red is live
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:33 AM   #14
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Re: again no spark.

what i mean is, they all go to the stator, which is connected to teh engine,

so they all earth to the engine really,

but i get nothing from the red/black.

so my live could be faulty?
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Old 10-02-2009, 07:39 AM   #15
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Re: again no spark.

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what i mean is, they all go to the stator, which is connected to teh engine,

so they all earth to the engine really,

but i get nothing from the red/black.

so my live could be faulty?
If they were all earthed within the stator then there would never be a potential difference to drive the current... Im nt sure what the colour coding is, if you post a diagram of where each wire leads i can help tho. Im sure Despise can do it off-hand.
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Old 10-02-2009, 11:06 AM   #16
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Re: again no spark.

i hear what you mean, spoke to adam this morning, and he confirmed that the red/black wire isnt a constant wire,

and can only be tested with a peak tester.

i will post up a loom diagram later when at home.

i will just split it all back down to basics, and check every connecter to make sure its not bridging/earthing anywhere.

adam also said that the cdi could have a bent terminal and to check that.

im sure its going to be a very simple fix, but its a brain melt all the same!!

will update later, and see how i get on.

grrr poxy wires!
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:13 PM   #17
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Re: again no spark.

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i hear what you mean, spoke to adam this morning, and he confirmed that the red/black wire isnt a constant wire,

and can only be tested with a peak tester.

i will post up a loom diagram later when at home.

i will just split it all back down to basics, and check every connecter to make sure its not bridging/earthing anywhere.

adam also said that the cdi could have a bent terminal and to check that.

im sure its going to be a very simple fix, but its a brain melt all the same!!

will update later, and see how i get on.

grrr poxy wires!
did i skip or what you ment to be replacing the stator?
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:21 PM   #18
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Re: again no spark.

Just had a reread through the thread. You say the yellow and white wire hav continuity with ground? Coz that should nt happen. There should be very low resistance between the wires and massive/infinity resistance for either wire to ground. Im nt sure but i think the generator shorting to ground could effect the pick up coil and excitor coil. Electrics arnt my strong point so pls correct me if im wrong. Iv got a diagram here that says the pickup coil, redblack and bluewhite, should hav 170ohm and for my yamaha its 184-276ohm, how much over 100ohm is yours? Would be useful to get figures from people running your stator to be sure.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:24 PM   #19
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Re: again no spark.

red/white goes to the CDI and thats it.

the colour match is near the bottom of the page hooperimports wiring diagram
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Old 10-02-2009, 02:04 PM   #20
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Re: again no spark.

hey mate the coil might be gone
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